X-Message-Number: 9924 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 07:40:36 -0400 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: CryoNet #9917 - #9923 Hi everyone! Well, to Saul I would say this: whether or not we get lots of turmoil and trouble depends to a very large extent on just how we do our research and with what aims. I doubt very strongly that it is inevitable. To put the matter simply, if cost is a consideration, then part of our problem is to find a way to bring that cost down. You will note that I suggested one process as a way to do so. And of course just what the opponents do when it begins to look like we will actually succeed depends on lots of things too, many of which are under our control. I am perfectly happy if preachers rant and rave; they did so as life insurance became established, and life insurance became popular regardless. We do want to prevent actual violence, and given the flaccid reaction most people have to cryonics right now, I personally think we'd actually have to work hard to evoke actual violence. To Yvan Bozzonetti: Here is a suggestion. Buy life insurance outside of France. There is a cryonics group in England, for instance, so I doubt that English companies would object. You might have to go there several times first to fill out the application, then to have the physical. Second, keep careful watch on your health (you probably do that already, but this is special). What you do not want to happen is anything sudden. Years ago, when I was living in Australia I read a book (its statistics are probably now outmoded) which concluded that in over 80% of cases there was warning of several weeks that someone was about to die. So you prepare to go to England then, and ideally get other French people interested so that they can act on your behalf to get you there if you can't do it yourself then. If you have the money to pay for a suspension in advance, then you need not bother with the insurance. But the issues involved in at least getting to England will remain. Finally, if I understand you properly, you want to donate money to fund research in return for a suspension when you need it. That's a hard one, mainly because most of the money for suspension is NOT used at the time. It is put into a fund and the income from thta fund pays the ongoing costs of suspension. None of the cryonics groups is likely to be large enough to do what you want; and if you found someone who wanted to donate that much for research then you'd have to provide something in return for them to donate the money to your suspension while you donate the required amount to research. My own best suggestion is to do what I described above. Best and long long life to all, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=9924