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# 24850 Reply to Michael C. Price about Immortalism [benbest]
  this discounting is hard-wired into our brains > by evolution; by this reasoning we should . . . to (Z). > Is the "death" of an hour old embryo more tragic > than that of . . . that he doesn't really want immortality after all. I did not say that I . . . doubles.html > Ben should be applauded for stating > that the Duplicates problem is presently unsolved
(Mon, 18 Oct 2004, 7 KB)
# 24826 Some Problems with Immortalism ? [Michael C Price]
  this discounting is hard-wired into our brains by evolution; by this reasoning we should . . . a million! Is the "death" of an hour old embryo more tragic than that of . . . that he doesn't really want immortality after all. I disagree with Ben's conclusions ( . . . doubles.html Ben should be applauded for stating that the Duplicates problem is presently unsolved
(Sat, 16 Oct 2004, 4 KB)
# 24573 Now this is a conundrum [James Swayze]
  kept alive while in a persistive vegetative state and hold for the rights of all . . . I have highlighted by placing *** before and after. They are quite interesting when taken in . . . have the right to deanimate before a brain malady can do identity robbing damage, Jeb . . . around the country. [Begin article] Case of Brain-Damaged Woman Heads to Court 4 hours ago By JACKIE HALLIFAX, Associated Press Writer [
(Tue, 31 Aug 2004, 9 KB)
# 24250 Oreg'n, Asst'd Suic'de & Hypoth'rmia [RAMole]
  terminal agonies and deterioration of body and brain, and to die at a known time . . . promptly, and to die of hypothermia so brain deterioration is delayed for 45 minutes or even several hours, Oregon's Assisted Suicide Law may provide . . . coldness of the water. Within a half hour the water would be cold, and within an hour or two he'd die of hypothermia, . . . and plenty of time to work before brain deterioration began. Details: Too many cryo patients die, then lie around for hours before they are discovered to be dead, . . . they die at normal body temperature, the brain deteriorates beyond recovery by conventional medical technology . . . everyone present, and to die cold so brain deterioration is delayed for a long time. . . . out and submitted. (Maybe not submitted until after death; this part is not clear to . . . minutes. And dies in one to three hours, usually. The above fills all requirements except . . . actual Oregon statute at http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/127.html Here is
(Tue, 15 Jun 2004, 13 KB)
# 24245 Oreg'n, Asst'd Suic'de & Hypoth'rmia [RAMole]
  terminal agonies and deterioration of body and brain, and to die at a known time . . . promptly, and to die of hypothermia so brain deterioration is delayed for 45 minutes or even several hours, Oregon's Assisted Suicide Law may provide . . . coldness of the water. Within a half hour the water would be cold, and within an hour or two he'd die of hypothermia, . . . and plenty of time to work before brain deterioration began. Details: Too many cryo patients die, then lie around for hours before they are discovered to be dead, . . . they die at normal body temperature, the brain deteriorates beyond recovery by conventional medical technology . . . everyone present, and to die cold so brain deterioration is delayed for a long time. . . . out and submitted. (Maybe not submitted until after death; this part is not clear to . . . minutes. And dies in one to three hours, usually. The above fills all requirements except . . . actual Oregon statute at http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/127.html Here is
(Mon, 14 Jun 2004, 24 KB)
# 24123 Re: CryoNet #24116 [RAMole]
  cryonics, the freezing of a body immediately after death and its storage in liquid nitrogen, . . . last weeks, or even leave the patient brain dead, with the brain deteriorating beyond hope of repair, while the . . . death would lead to minimal damage to brain and organs. Hypothermia would be ideal. In hypothermia for heart or brain operations, precooling allows the heart to be stopped for long periods and the brain left without oxygen, all without permanent damage. . . . his life in front of witnesses. The state grants permission. Ordinarily a physician would prescribe . . . at this point that they would have hours before deterioration took place. This is probably
(Fri, 21 May 2004, 8 KB)
# 23816 Re: David Pizer [Unique Awareness Sensor Theory] [51aerv4rw001]
  somatic theory of personal identity. This theory states that you are (or have survived as) . . . duplicate of one neuron in your UAS. After it is completed, we excise the original . . . quite normal for a small number of brain cells to kick the bucket every so . . . then what happens if we replace one brain cell every day (or hour, or minute) until the whole UAS is
(Mon, 5 Apr 2004, 7 KB)
# 23676 Answer to Charles Platt part 1 [Trygve B.Bauge]
  business of trying >to cryopreserve the human brain begins with the acts of >people who . . . goal is to achieve not just perfect brain preservation, but to restore brains and the body to youthful conditions. And . . . the case that was brought against me after I had joked about hijacking a plane . . . I guess I came to the United States a few centuries too late. No Colorado . . . attacks on the suspension of Williams either. After having annually heard about my grandfather's . . . no problems what so ever with the state health authorities in California. But since the . . . Alcor has frozen a person without a brain, and C.I has frozen a white . . . beings, we don't need a preserved brain for that. And most mental content can . . . e.g. are you the same person after a stroke? Not fully, but a person . . . own in the wilderness, or drawing some state of the art blast shelter, with the . . . turn having one of the annual business after hours at the cryonic facility, that too would
(Fri, 19 Mar 2004, 22 KB)
# 23659 Charles Platt, what is your problem? Request for a moderated and unmoderated version of Cryonet. [Trygve B.Bauge]
  business of trying >to cryopreserve the human brain begins with the acts of >people who . . . goal is to achieve not just perfect brain preservation, but to restore brains and the body to youthful conditions. And . . . I guess I came to the United States a few centuries too late. No Colorado . . . attacks on the suspension of Williams either. After having annually heard about my grandfather's . . . no problems what so ever with the state health authorities in California. But since the . . . Alcor has frozen a person without a brain, and C.I has frozen a white . . . beings, we don't need a preserved brain for that. And most mental content can . . . e.g. are you the same person after a stroke? Not fully, but a person . . . own in the wilderness, or drawing some state of the art blast shelter, with the . . . turn having one of the annual business after hours at the cryonic facility, that too would
(Wed, 17 Mar 2004, 32 KB)
# 23560 Re: #23548 and #23554 'Miracle' boys defy death under the ice [Swb1948]
  were clinically dead for more than an >> hour after falling >> through ice into a frozen lake . . . death stories have >to do with cryonics. After all, when I deanimate I'm >not . . . cold water. A handful have survived an hour underwater. Labeling someone as "dead" today says . . . no more difficulty than 2 1/2 hours. "Except quantitatively, then, the problem is not . . . we do to protect the patient's brain between the point of legal death and . . . them frozen or vitrified into an unchanging state. The first priority is getting the patient'
(Sat, 6 Mar 2004, 6 KB)

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