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Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:43:27 -0400
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I have listened carefully to this NPR broadcast twice now, and I think
it is important for everyone involved in cryonics to also listen
carefully and absorb the many lessons that it teaches. First of all, I
think we should absolve Nelson of blame for what happened. This poor
man was struggling with a task which was way over his head. He deceived
himself, as others have before and since, with the notion that many
people would flock to cryonics once they realized that it had a real
possibility of working. he greatly underestimated the length of time it
woulod take for cryonics to become popular. We are still waiting.
More importantly, he also greatly underestimated the basic requirements
for making it work, the first of which is to have an adequately funded
and competently staffed facility with the ability to maintain itself
over long periods. I think he gambled that, something like that
mythical ballfield, if he started it and had real capsules filled with
liquid nitrogen, they would come. Those who actually came, including
the famous Dr Bedford, came with hope and desperation in their hearts
but they came empty-handed. How could they imagine that this service
would be free? Simply put, they took advantage of this man, and he
returned the favor by promising much more than he could possibly
deliver.
Fast forward 30 years and what do we have? Just two organizations, both
small, understaffed, and growing only slowly. Does either of these
organizations really have the staying power to remain in business for
another two hundred years or thereabouts, protecting the remains of
those who put their trust in them? Is ALCOR protected from yet
another hired CEO who will raid their treasury and betray their trust
for fun and profit? Does CI have a plan for who will eventually take
the place of the highly estimable Ben Best and the doggedly loyal and
hardworking Andy? Can either organization be shielded from lawsuits and
predators coming at them from left and right?
Finally, we need to think about our charity cases. I note that ALCOR
doesn't take them so their appeals are all directed to CI, making CI
even more vulnerable. Our discreditors frequently raise the question of
the expense of cryonics. Can we really be honest about this? ALCOR's
$150K for a full body suspension is five times as much as CI. What is
going on here?
Ron Havelock
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#31623: Re: radio program [David Wallace Croft]
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Message #31623
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:14:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Wallace Croft <>
Subject: Re: radio program
> Message #31622
> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 22:58:35 -0700
> Subject: radio program
> From: Keith Henson <>
>
> I didn't hear it all, but there was a program on NPR
> tonight, This
> American life by Ira Glass, that discussed the Chatsworth
> disaster and
> interviewed Nelson.
>
> It seemed reasonably sympathetic to cryonics.
Here is the URL:
http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=354
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