2011-03-17T05:53:14-05:00 CryoNet http://www.cryonet.org/cryonet.xml http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33511 2011-03-17T05:43:21-0000

One privilege of running one's own forum is being able to get the last word. Thanks to the many thoughtful contributors over the years, far too many to list here. (But you always can check the archives.) And thanks to all of you who have sent kind words my way. . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33510 2011-03-17T01:06:27-0700

the last cryonet message: if you are someone who is interested in cryonics and you are reading this archive to find out more about cryonics, then I have something to say to you. I am a cryonicist, signed up many years now. I would warn you not to get sucked . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33509 2011-03-17T01:51:52-0500

Dear Mike, I was truly amused at your other post flaming me but what do I care. Your affliction does continue. Now that you, according to your claim, have managed to kill CryoNet, exactly where is someone, according to you, supposed to reply to your latest Russians post, at? Is . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33508 2011-03-16T23:40:35-0700

I'll add my small, inadequate note of appreciation to Kevin Brown for maintaining this forum for so many years. Mike Perry . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33507 2011-03-17T00:53:35EDT

Content-Language: en In 2008 I had the privilege of visiting the Russian Federation and meeting with Russian cryonicists in Moscow and Veronezh. Moscow was an alien and bizarre experience for me - one which I have likened to being recovered from cryopreservation - familiar, and yet utterly transformed - expected, . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33506 2011-03-16T20:56:24-0700

if you are someone who is interested in cryonics and you are reading this archive to find out more about cryonics, then I have something to say to you. I am a cryonicist, signed up many years now. I would warn you not to get sucked into the cryonics culture. . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33505 2011-03-16T20:56:05-0400

Mike Darwin has suggested that the moderator of Cold Filter is a non-cryonicist. Just to clarify, I am the moderator of said forum, and I would describe myself as an advocate of cryonics. I just happen to be disabled, unable to qualify for life insurance, and don't yet have my . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33504 2011-03-16T19:47:46EDT

Content-Language: en I think the title of FD's post says it all. *Who* is to *blame,* because it does have to be someone, doesn't it? And whoever he, she, or better yet, THEY are, there must be BLAME. What a ridiculous position - and what a sad one. But even . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33503 2011-03-16T18:24:38EDT

Content-Language: en Mike Darwin wrote: 'Attempting to make meaningful technical change at CI is a frustrating, micro-incremental, and mostly unrewarding process. Most suggestions are met with the ripostes that they are "unaffordable, impractical, or unnecessary."' I then quoted a suggestion I made to the CI group (concerning the way CI . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33502 2011-03-16T16:30:47EDT

Content-Language: en Chris, Thanks for your thoughtful reply and for asking questions. I'm going to go at answering them in a different order than you asked them for logistical reasons that I hope will soon become apparent. This is also necessary due to the message length constraints on Cryonet. Chris . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33501 2011-03-16T08:49:28-0700

Before we spark off a wave of New Cryonets, maybe we should agree on which ones are worthy of attention: 1. Easy to use. This one sucks in that I have to carefully hard-wrap my email text before posting otherwise it comes out hard to read. Also it's a pain . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33500 2011-03-16T22:56:41+1100

Thank you Kevin Q. Brown for hosting this group. I will join the new group being set up by John de Rivaz. Mike Darwin wrote: 'Attempting to make meaningful technical change at CI is a frustrating, micro-incremental, and mostly unrewarding process. Most suggestions are met with the ripostes that they . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33499 2011-03-16T08:47:28-0000

When continuing threads to http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/New_Cryonet please quote from the old thread on CryoNet, and it may also be a good idea during the transition period to check on the web (if you can) whether the originator of the thread (ie the from: bit) is on New Cryonet and if not . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33498 2011-03-16T07:44:28+0100

I own the url Cryonicist.com for 10 years for now, I could install the cryonet files there, just to continue our discussions. I would only need the files, I have everything else. . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33497 2011-03-16T14:27:21+0800

Thank you for the CryoNet. I didn't quite understand why it has to be shut down, but I have to assume there is a very good reason for it. The CryoNet has been important to me. Until recently, I have been the only cryonicists for thousands of miles and the . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33496 2011-03-16T01:04:14-0500

To Mike Darwin, thank you for the interesting post, but don't tell me what to do. Now we have Kevin Q. Brown and Jonathan Hinek to blame for the demise of free speech regarding cryonics on the internet, with Darwin admitting a background influence. Who else would like to share . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33495 2011-03-15T21:44:16-0700

A few weeks ago I finally got http://cryonic.thought.org set up with more than the "test banner" that has been there for years. Sometime in early April I will public the latest essay my views on suicide+cryonics. Suicide is legal if one is within six months of death here in WA . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33494 2011-03-15T17:15:53-0400

Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Gee, that's sad! Thanks, Kevin, for making available this much appreciated medium of exchange through all those years. Its demise actually came as a shock to me, but you do deserve a break! I will definitely subscribe to John de Rivaz' Yahoo group, and I . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33493 2011-03-15T14:08:49-0600

Tuesday, March ,2011 2:01 p.m. CDT Say it ain't so, Joe....er... Kevin. Seriously, many, many thanks to Kevin for all his years of service. Also thanks to John de Rivaz for being willing to step into the void here. Cryonet has been one of the "highlights of the day" for . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33492 2011-03-15T15:16:38-0400

There is a bit more to the situation David. Kevin, can you go into some detail about the challenges you have had keeping the system operational because of antiquated hardware and software? Mathew Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33491 2011-03-15T11:19:01-0700

Kevin I can't help but wonder why would you just shut Cryonet down instead of trying to find someone to take over implementing it? Over the years you have made Cryonet something that belongs to the cryonics community, not to you. We have supported your effort to do just that. . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33490 2011-03-15T09:25:03-0700

Dear Fred & Linda, I'm glad that my simple reference to Terasem had such a positive effect! Hope to see you guys soon - and for decades to come... Best Regards, Peter From: Fred Chamberlain [mailto:fred] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 9:26 AM . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33489 2011-03-15T10:56:39-0500

(RESUBMITTED DUE TO APPARENT AUTO-REJECTION, FOR USE OF AN IMPROPER FONT, FORMATTING, ETC. WHO KNOWS?) Re: X-Message-Number: 33476 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:40:55 -0000 Subject: CryoNet to Enter Stasis March 17, 2011 From: "Kevin Q. Brown" <kqb> Thank you, Kevin, for the 22 years of history of thinking, by . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33488 2011-03-15T10:02:30-0500

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 4:00 AM, CryoNet <owner-cryonet> wrote: I already run a couple of mailing lists. I can add a cryonet mailing list pretty easily if anyone is interested. Impeach Clarence Thomas Money isn't speech. A Corporation isn't a person. http://www.movetoamend.org/ . . .

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=33487 2011-03-15T10:51:13-0400

I love CryoNet, and I would hate to see it disappear. I try to rate every message, as my small contribution to keeping the system working as is - and I think that it works extremely well as is. I am not clear on the reasons for CryoNet to enter . . .