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| # 12008 | Re: Betrayal and Abandonment [Robin Hanson] |
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Betrayal and Abandonment
On 23 Jun 1999 David Pascal wrote:
>Robin Hanson's message nails that cryonics approach right on the noggin.
>That's . . . we never say it. We never say,
>"Cryonics is good for others. It's good, it's right, for society, for
>mankind, for the world." We never (Fri, 25 Jun 1999, 2 KB) |
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| # 15824 | Pascal [Ettinger] |
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Mar 2001 12:23:15 EST
Subject: Pascal
Rafi Haftka mentioned Pascal's wager (that's Blaise, not David)--You should
have [the] faith, since being . . . version of that Wager does apply to cryonics and is basically correct.
For many people, . . . for that kind of ratio.
Robert Ettinger
Cryonics Institute
Immortalist Society
http://www.cryonics.org
(Thu, 8 Mar 2001, 2 KB) |
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| # 11991 | Betrayal and Abandonment [Davpascal] |
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of wailing the question, "Why Isn't Cryonics
More Popular?" Cryonics, as we all know, is full of . . . up with justifications for 'the failure of cryonics', to use Saul Kent's
numbing mantra, . . . sometimes and write down every
reason that cryonics should succeed. Then stick it somewhere prominent . . . relatively, ten times as
many doctors in cryonics as in the general population. Because corporations
. . . Is
there no good to come for society if cryonics were to be achieved? Is . . . their contributions to science and art and
society a hundredfold. It promises a painless alternative . . . It's good,
it's right, for society, for mankind, for the world." We never . . . have to come out and say it.
David Pascal
www.cryonics.org
www.davidpascal.com
(Wed, 23 Jun 1999, 12 KB) |
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| # 26473 | Re: CryoNet #26456 - #26462 [David Pizer] |
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From: "David Pizer" <davidpizer@cableone.net>
References: <20050702090001.84057. . . . it is time
to end these discussions.
David
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> From: Robin Helweg-Larsen <robin@income-outcome. . . . by the origins and strength of the
cryonics movement in the US.
DAVID: I don't understand how religion is . . . could well
jeopardize the physical safety of cryonics institutions, personnel, and
suspended patients. The United States is a tolerant society with many
extremely intolerant subcultures. I think . . . less reliant on the United States
for cryonic suspension.
DAVID; A good point I had not considered . . . be better if
there were some other cryonics facilities in other countries. But on the
. . . no Heaven and it turns out that cryonics works, this seems a great
harm now . . . all of
> our patients, members and supporters.
DAVID: Ben seems very emotional about this and . . . available, even if religions were wrong, (as Pascal pointed
out) there was no harm in (Sat, 2 Jul 2005, 12 KB) |
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| # 15679 | Professionals [davidpascal] |
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want to be with the professionals.
>> Thanks David for helping me to find even more . . . point out that the site of the Society of Cryobiology,
which explicitly rejects cryonics, probably lists hundreds if not
thousands of . . . For the amazing
thing people interested in cryonics -- as with those not interested -- is
that . . . upcoming CI page:
"One cornerstone of the Cryonics Institute approach rests on its decision
to . . . the initial treatment, and
sometimes the full cryonic perfusion, of members. It has been argued
. . . but even there we should recall that cryonic suspension is not a part of
any . . . CI members sound pretty professional to me.
David Pascal
www.cryonics.org
(Sat, 17 Feb 2001, 8 KB) |
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| # 15287 | Charles Platt's Many Ludicrous Remarks [davidpascal] |
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properly documented lab work at
http://www.cryonics.org/research2.html and at
http://www.cryonics.org/research3.html, both of which have . . . it. It
is almost an axiom of cryonics that patients need to be cooled rapidly,
. . . approximated the conditions under which an
actual cryonics member was likely to die. Of the former method, one can
only say that no cryonics patient is ever going to be anesthetized . . . instance, had an
article covering the Cryonics Society of Canada gathering, two articles
by former . . . from Alcor members Scott Badger, Mike Perry,
David Pizer, and Natasha Vita-More, not to . . . is the state of the cryonics
movement.
David Pascal
http://www.cryonics.org
(P.S. On (Sun, 7 Jan 2001, 47 KB) |
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| # 15290 | Charles Platt's Many Ludicrous Remarks (Again) [davidpascal] |
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properly documented lab work at
http://www.cryonics.org/research2.html and at
http://www.cryonics.org/research3.html, both of which have . . . it. It
is almost an axiom of cryonics that patients need to be cooled rapidly,
. . . approximated the conditions under which an
actual cryonics member was likely to die. Of the former method, one can
only say that no cryonics patient is ever going to be anesthetized . . . instance, had an
article covering the Cryonics Society of Canada gathering, two articles
by former . . . from Alcor members Scott Badger, Mike Perry,
David Pizer, and Natasha Vita-More, not to . . . is the state of the cryonics
movement.
David Pascal
http://www.cryonics.org
(P.S. On (Mon, 8 Jan 2001, 39 KB) |
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| # 17803 | Quality Control and Cryonics [Mgdarwin] |
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19:44 EDT
Subject: Quality Control and Cryonics
Charles Platt and others have commented about quality control in cryonics and
have referenced my earlier proposals for . . . anyone else. The plans laid out by David Pascal that Yuri Pichugin plans to
follow seem . . . hard part, but if you are a cryonics organization and plan this kind of
work . . . I think they trouble other
researchers in cryonics. Several of us have already had access . . . without objection (i.e., the Lake Tahoe Cryonics meeting in the 1980s and
1990s). If . . . those of most of the rest of society). This is done all the
time. To (Mon, 22 Oct 2001, 10 KB) |
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| # 11997 | Making It So [Davpascal] |
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that asking the question, "Why Isn't
Cryonics More Popular?", invariably gets a number of . . . thus producing reasons
calulated to sink the cryonics reader into even further gloom and paralysis.
. . . believe the primary reasons people
> favorable to cryonics don't sign up are:
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> 1) The prevailing scientific opinion
> that cryonics patients are preserved so badly
that it . . . up
for implausible nonsense all the time; cryonics membership problems would
seem to lie elsewhere. ( . . . Kent founded one of the earliest cryonics societies,
and - unfortunately - it didn't take off. . . . to, as Picard says, 'Make it so'.
David Pascal
www.cryonics.org
www.davidpascal.com
(Wed, 23 Jun 1999, 14 KB) |
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| # 18255 | Raspberries Over Vanilla [davidpascal] |
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wrote:
>> Anything which enhances our understanding of cryonics staff as people
is very useful to me. If David wants to tell us what he ate . . . the film Vanilla Sky
("Narcissism, Hollywood, and cryonics"), Damien Broderick (one hell of a
writer . . . enshrined it as the true essence of
cryonics. And from a mass-marketing perspective, he . . . Lucite sandals are the 'true essence
of cryonics'? Then why aren't any of us . . . Times poll: "Would you sign up for cryonics if the building
were shaped like a . . . for an
increasing acceptance and permeation by society of a positive and
desirable and accurate . . . cause for complaint at that at all.
David Pascal
http://www.cryonics.org
P.S. -- Happy (Sun, 30 Dec 2001, 14 KB) |
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